St. John's basketball is better than two teams?!

From Basketball Prospectus, a look at teams' in-conference efficiency.

Looking solely at a team's conference games holds several evaluative benefits. First, unlike games in November or December, there are an equal number of home and road games to consider. Even more important, the opponents in conference games are blessed, by definition, with similar resources….

Lastly, if you're interested in how a team is going to perform in March (and that pretty much takes in all of us), conference play constitutes the most recent and therefore relevant information. For me, conference play constitutes the regular season in college basketball.

So what do we find so far in 2008?


Through games of January 28, conference games only
Pace: possessions per 40 minutes
PPP: points per possession
Opp. PPP: opponent points per possession
EM: efficiency margin (PPP - Opp. PPP)

Big East: Beware Seton Hall...or at least their schedule



1. Louisville 66.0 1.04 0.92 +0.12

2. Georgetown 61.9 1.07 0.97 +0.10

3. Pitt 64.5 1.10 1.01 +0.09

4. West Virginia 63.6 1.05 0.97 +0.08

5. Connecticut 70.6 1.10 1.05 +0.05

6. Marquette 70.0 1.05 1.02 +0.03

7. Syracuse 70.4 1.01 1.00 +0.01

8. Seton Hall 70.5 1.07 1.06 +0.01

9. Notre Dame 74.2 1.02 1.02 0.00

10. Providence 68.6 1.06 1.06 0.00

11. DePaul 68.2 1.02 1.05 -0.03

12. Villanova 71.2 1.03 1.06 -0.03

13. Cincinnati 66.3 1.02 1.05 -0.03

14. St. John's 68.0 0.92 1.04 -0.12

15. Rutgers 66.4 0.90 1.04 -0.14

16. S. Florida 64.6 1.01 1.15 -0.14

Despite what you see here, Notre Dame has somehow insinuated themselves near the top of the Big East standings. That means either their performance or their place in the conference pecking order is about to change. As it stands now, a team that's making just 43 percent of its twos in-conference doesn't have the trajectory to scare anyone come March.

Elsewhere in the conference, note that resurgent Seton Hall is not only scoring points in abundance, they also have a sweet schedule laid out for them. They've already gone to Pitt and lost. They don't go to Louisville this year. Their toughest remaining games are at Georgetown and at West Virginia. As incredible as it sounds, a 13-5 conference record after an 0-3 start is within the realm of possibility for the Pirates.

Log In Sign Up

Log In Sign Up

Forgot password?

We'll email you a reset link.

If you signed up using a 3rd party account like Facebook or Twitter, please login with it instead.

Forgot password?

Try another email?

Almost done,

By becoming a registered user, you are also agreeing to our Terms and confirming that you have read our Privacy Policy.

Join Rumble In The Garden

You must be a member of Rumble In The Garden to participate.

We have our own Community Guidelines at Rumble In The Garden. You should read them.

Join Rumble In The Garden

You must be a member of Rumble In The Garden to participate.

We have our own Community Guidelines at Rumble In The Garden. You should read them.




Choose an available username to complete sign up.

In order to provide our users with a better overall experience, we ask for more information from Facebook when using it to login so that we can learn more about our audience and provide you with the best possible experience. We do not store specific user data and the sharing of it is not required to login with Facebook.