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Starting St. John's guard Nurideen Lindsey to transfer (UPDATED)

Nurideen Lindsey takes a layup vs Arizona. Lindsey will reportedly transfer from St. John's.

Per Roger Rubin of the NY Daily News, St. John's sophomore point guard Nurideen Lindsey will transfer to another school at the end of the fall semester.

"This was a mutually agreed-upon decision that Nuri’s pursuit of other opportunities is in the best interest of all parties," said Coach Steve Lavin.

"I came to St. Johns for a couple of reasons. One was to be close to my mom, whose health has been up and down due to some past experiences. The second was to play for Coach Lav. In both instances it has not worked out how I envisioned. I think Coach Lav is an amazing coach, and person. He could have taught me so much," said Nurideen Lindsey in a press release.

"I think this team will be special. I think what I'll miss most about St. John’s is miss my teammates," Nurideen added this afternoon. "Those guys are like my brothers. So I will continue to support St. John’s and my brothers."

Lindsey averaged 11.8 points per game/ 2.9 assists/ 4.9 rebounds in his 9 games for the Red Storm. His ability to get to the line helped power a St. John's attack that mitigated a lack of depth and shooting with a torrent of free throw attempts and low turnovers on offense.

But Nurideen's play has declined in recent weeks, scoring 6, 16, 1, and 4 points in his last 4 games after the Texas A&M game in the 2K Sports Classic, where his missed free throws were part of the team's inability to pull off the upset win.

Since that game, the Red Storm has gone 1-3.

The loss of Lindsey leaves a team that only played 7 athletes with 6 scholarship players.

Star-divide

Nurideen Lindsey may not have been a point guard (though he assisted on a decent 22.5% of the team's shots). But as an attacking guard who handled the ball, he has been an integral part of the Red Storm's attack. Much like Dwight Hardy last year, he was a huge part of what made the Red Storm offense function. Without his ability to draw fouls, the team has struggled to score.

Below, selected stats from the Red Storm before and after the Texas A&M game. Per possession, the offense has gone into the tank. The three-point shooting remains poor, but the ability to get shots from the free throw line and inside the arc has also taken a hit. "FTR" is the ratio of free throws to field goals attempted; and "TO%" is turnovers divided by possessions.

St. John's pre- and post-Coaches vs Cancer
Pos
PPG
PPP
eFG%
FTA
FTR
2P%
TO
TO%
A/T
pre A&M
67.8
72.6
1.07
50.9
33.4
70.2
54.4%
12.6
18.6
1.2
post A&M
66.3
62.3
0.95
43.7
21.3
38.5
45.1%
16.5
25.0
0.6

There's a reason that it has seemed like the team was struggling, and it wasn't just the length of Kentucky. It could be a small sample, but Nurideen has been noticeably removed from the attack. He's played 41 minutes in the past two games.

The St. John's program has had a lot of tumult, with the players who were deemed ineligible by the NCAA and Steve Lavin's cancer recovery, along with the state of the Big East conference. From Monday's postgame post after the 69-63 loss at Detroit:

This team is taking its lumps.

Before the games start, it's easy to talk about playing hard, about cohesion. But when the team's on the edge of .500, struggling to get its attack going, and unable to play its game... who does the team look to? Not just for stories of the old days, but to carry them when they're down?

The Johnnies are still searching for the answer.

The loss of Nuri means that the main playmaking duties will fall to Phil Greene and Malik Stith. Neither has been as offensively aggressive as Nurideen Lindsey, but both have been better at protecting the ball.

Lindsey came to St. John's from a troubled past in Philadelphia, but rediscovered his love for basketball at Redlands Community College in Oklahoma. Lindsey was touted as an NBA-level talent before arriving on the Queens campus, earning favorable comparisons to St. John's star Marcus Hatten, who also came from the junior college ranks.

The Rumble will keep you abreast of the reasons why, whether there is any other tumult in the locker room, and what players may come from the group of walk-ons to take playing time.

The transfer of Lindsey is a blow for a fanbase that has received a lot of bad news in the past three months. Fans expected bigger wins from an entirely new squad of highly-touted recruits. Steve Lavin will return, and the rebuilding process continues. The long-run process of revitalizing the St. John's program requires patience.

But in the short term, the team is left thin and wounded, with Big East play looming in a couple of weeks. A difficult season becomes even harder.

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the actions of a kid who thought he would leap to the NBA after a year. In the end I dont know how he defends leaving his team in the lurch. His lack of passing and shooting ability are not on the team and will have to be worked out wherever he goes.

You're not a diehard fan if every now and then your team doesn't try to kill you

by Bigknickle on Dec 8, 2011 4:36 PM EST reply actions  

coming in, it was though that he would be a leader

This is surprising. He was going to be the intense, spiritual heart of the team.

I am intrigued to see where Nuri lands and how he develops. He has potential, but has some serious warts – can’t see an NBA team taking the risk on him. And if he’s in a league where they call offensive push-offs, he’s going to find the struggles continue.

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by picodulce on Dec 8, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

From rumor land...

Some of Nuri’s people on Facebook were upset with how he was used, how quickly Nuri was yanked from games like at Detroit; he and Dunlap have butted heads.

Which begs two comments: 1. maybe there is a difference with Lavin not at practice to be the players’ coach kind of guy? (But still, Lavin’s in contact with the team).

And 2. A player has to be able to take some criticism, especially when he turns the ball over 3-6 times in his games.

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by picodulce on Dec 8, 2011 5:10 PM EST reply actions  

Full comments from press release:

“This was a mutually agreed-upon decision that Nuri’s pursuit of other opportunities is in the best interest of all parties,” said Lavin. "We appreciate Nuri’s contributions to our program. He is a basketball player with a bright future. Our basketball family supports Nuri as he moves in a new direction."

“I came to St. Johns for a couple of reasons. One was to be close to my mom, whose health has been up and down due to some past experiences. The second was to play for Coach Lav. In both instances it has not worked out how I envisioned. I think Coach Lav is an amazing coach, and person. He could have taught me so much,” said Lindsey. "I love St. John’s and appreciate all the love and support from the staff and school. I think this team will be special. I think what I’ll miss most about St. John’s is miss my teammates. Those guys are like my brothers. So I will continue to support St. John’s and my brothers. Thank you for the memories, regardless of how brief."

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by picodulce on Dec 8, 2011 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

We're fucked

So our starting line-up is Malik, Phil, Dee, Moe and God’sGift with Dom coming off the bench and that’s about it…jesus christ.

by KidCanada on Dec 8, 2011 11:20 PM EST reply actions  

I keep my language PG

But I’m on board with that statement. Amir Garrett better be cleared to play in a week (chances are he won’t be – he still has to get his classes cleared) and the secret walk-on forward Jerry Cummings from Garden City Community College comes and can play.

This is becoming more and more like a Seton Hall roster.

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by picodulce on Dec 9, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm shocked

And very disappointed in Nuri. To make a commitment and then bolt like this is incredibly lame. Especially if it’s because he wasn’t happy with Dunlap. Nuri hasn’t been playing well at all. If he can’t deal with accountability, he has no future as a basketball player.

Really foolish decision from him to not try to weather this. If he resurrects his college career at LaSalle or someplace like that, no one will care. He’s just made the decision to be irrelevant as a basketball player. NBA? Ha. No chance no matter what after this.

This really hurts St. John’s. Getting Garrett soon (hopefully) will help the depth, but he was supposed to take us from perilously thin to OK depthwise. Now we need him desperately just to stay afloat. The season is turning into a disaster.

by Joamiq on Dec 9, 2011 4:38 AM EST reply actions  

It's a shame

I liked Nuri a lot and thought he had a ton of potential to boss this offense once more weapons and size came in next year. He’s a talented point guard who can penetrate and score, as well as dish if he has the weapons, but he has turned the ball over too much and needs to improve his shooting. His quickness reminded me of Rondo.

Lavin is recovering from cancer and sure Nuri wanted to learn from him and be coached by him and not Dunlap, but gimme a break. This is life and basketball will come second to Coach Lavin.

This is a selfish move on his part and will have a very negative effect on his teammates and their perceived abilities from here on out.

by KidCanada on Dec 9, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Moving Forward

Nothing we can do about it. Nuri made a poor decision and he has to live with that. I saw some speculation on his grades, which wouldn’t be surprising since they were concerned about him over the summer, too. He may have been headed for a dq for the next semester.

Anyway, I still like the guys we have, although we certainly need a few more. The group we have is tough and talented and will get things going. Getting Amir will be a big help, but getting Coach back is the big key. I expect the negative energy to reverse quickly once he’s feeling better and back with the team. We’ll start getting the commits again at that point. Let’s pull for the guys who are here and leading this team forward. They will be a special group by the time they graduate.

by Jnaw17 on Dec 9, 2011 8:14 PM EST reply actions  

good comment, agreed.

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