St. John's vs Syracuse Orange game thread: New York's team vs New York's team
Syracuse Orange at St. John's Red Storm, Feb 4, 2012 12:00 PM EST
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(10-12, 4-6 BE) |
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Likely Starters |
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| Phil Greene | G | G | Scoop Jardine |
| D`Angelo Harrison | G | G | Brandon Triche |
| Amir Garrett | F | F | C.J. Fair |
| Maurice Harkless | F | F | Kris Joseph |
| God`sgift Achiuwa | F | C | Fabricio de Melo |
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| Sir`Dominic Pointer | G/F | G | Dion Waiters |
| Malik Stith | G | F | James Southerland |
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| Vegas Spread: -12 Syracuse | |||
St. John's versus Syracuse, where emotions run high, and St. John's hasn't been on the winning side since 2007. Madison Square Garden will be filled... but with a lot of Syracuse fans. Can the Johnnies send them home unhappy?
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Looking for a lot of Red at the end...
as the Orange exits early.
and Melo has a St. John's style frohawk.
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Phil Greene out, Harrison in...
Greene didn’t get back in transition, so maybe that’s why he got yanked?
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still,
Cuse is 1-6 from the field. But that won’t do. St. John’s up 7-4 at the U16.
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Getting the ball down low
Unlike last year’s game, we’re getting the ball down low against the zone. Making some ill advised passes once we’re in there, but we can fix that. Good offensive movement in the first 5 minutes.
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Pointer and Garrett have to make better decisions, though, on the drive.
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There's a lot of confusion defense.
Not boxing out on that follow dunk/ offensive rebound… not marking the Cuse player who drifted out to the three-point line…
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And leave Melo outside
If Melo gets the ball by the three point line, we should collapse our D, not chase him. Let him shoot that if he wants it. Also, boxing out will be critical to us today.
Between media timeouts, #Cuse had 4 offensive rebounds, went 5/10 from the field. #stjbb
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Amir garrett with the own-goal basket
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St. John's is working to draw fouls...
That’s a positive. Still it’s 23-14, Cuse.
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Malik Stith was late on that closeout.
Like, he got there tomorrow.
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Big stretch for us here
Need some tough D and to force some turnovers.
Syracuse is so balanced. It's hard to get anything done defensively.
by Quinn Rochford on Feb 4, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
and get some rebounds.
Cuse rebounds in between timeouts: 5. St. John’s rebounds: 0.
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St. John's just lost a 50/50 ball...
But both sides were Red Storm players. Got to grab those rebounds. The ball went to Cuse.
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Amir Garrett heard you. Improved on his 50% FT shooting with 2 makes
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9-16 from the line. Can't have a sub-60% performance in a game like this.
by Quinn Rochford on Feb 4, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
5/8 since the last media timeout.
It’s sinking them.
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Harrison and Harkless on the bench with 2 fouls? This five better play some hellacious defense.
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4 turnovers...
But St. John’s was worse, 0/5, 1 rebound.
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halftime, 41-27 Syracuse
It got close for a moment there, but Syracuse imposed its will, Harkless and Harrison went to the bench with two fouls each, and the Red Storm couldn’t hit their shots. St. John’s has been forced into contested, distant jumpers.
That’s not working out. Johnnies shooting 30% inside the arc, 33% outside the arc (2/6). Syracuse is 2/11 from outside, but killing it in the paint.
St. John’s is getting to the line, but is shooting 9/16 from the charity stripe.
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Free throws and rebounding
We’re driving the ball well and doing a good job of drawing fouls. Need to hit the FT’s as we know. Rebounds will need to be a joint effort. Our guys are not rebounding with the same intensity as Syracuse. That will need to change in the second half if we want to make a run. We may lose some because of size, but let’s not continue to be out hustled for any.
St John's...
Harkless has 7 points on 3/9 shooting, 0/2 from the three, 1/4 from the free throw line. He has 3 rebounds
Harrison is 1/3 for 6 points – has 1/3 made threes, 3/6 from the free throw line. 2 assists.
Pointer/ Harrison/ Harkless with 2 fouls.
Phil Greene’s hit two jumpers. 2/5, 1 assist, 7 rebounds. Achuwa has 2 rebounds, 4 points – one on a midrange baseline jumper. Pointer’s 0/4.
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Syracuse...
Led by 9 points from Kris Joseph on 9 shots. CJ Fair, Fab Melo, Michael Carter-Williams each have 6. Brandon Triche has 4 assists. Joseph has 5 rebounds.
Cuse shot 63.6% from inside the arc (14/22). 2/11 from outside the arc. Got 8 free throw attempts (24% FTR), made 7 of those shots. 18 bench points, 14 second chance points. Grabbed 10 offensive rebounds (55.6% of their possible offensive boards).
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18.13...
And we’ve seen Scoop Jardine wide open for three in transition, 4 fouls on Moe Harkless, an open dunk in transition for Cuse…
48-27. Maybe it’s time to go eat lunch.
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52-28 Syracuse
15-0 run by Cuse, broken up by Gift’s FT.
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16-3 in the half
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Syracuse obv.
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