From The Time Machine: The St. John's-Fordham series has been lopsided, but is it a rivalry?

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St. John's leads the all-time series against Fordham 23-2, despite the Rams' big victory over the Red Storm in 2010.

It’s difficult to peg Fordham as a true rival for St. John’s when the results are so lopsided in the Johnnies’ favor, but this game has become one to circle on the calendar as the Rams try to turn their fortunes around under head coach Tom Pecora.

Fordham and St. John’s will meet Saturday in the annual Holiday Festival (which seems to take place earlier every season) at Madison Square Garden as the Johnnies make their first appearance there this season before welcoming New York’s "other" college basketball team in Syracuse next weekend

Fordham versus St. John’s is nearly an annual event, but the two schools did take a seven-year break between 2002 and 2009.

St. John’s has dominated this series and is 23-2 against Fordham since 1981. But there is that 2010 Fordham win at the Rose Hill Gym to show St. John’s isn’t always the dominant New York City area program.

December 8, 2012 – St. John’s 58, Fordham 47

Chris Obekpa surpassed his own school record for blocks in one game by swatting 11 Fordham shot attempts as St. John’s won this Holiday Festival game at Madison Square Garden against a struggling Rams squad, which was 1-8 at the time.

JaKarr Sampson scored a game-high 16 points with 10 rebounds and D’Angelo Harrison added 14 points.

St. John’s trailed at halftime 27-24, but Fordham struggled shooting the ball in the second half to allow the Red Storm to come back and win this game. Fordham shot just 28.4% in the game.

December 17, 2011 – St. John’s 56, Fordham 50

St. John’s just escaped a second straight loss to Fordham to win this Holiday Festival contest. The victory ended a three-game losing streak.

The Red Storm came into this game shorthanded as it was their first without Nurideen Lindsey, who abruptly decided to transfer from the school just nine game into his career.

Harrison finished with 15 points, but 12 of them came in the second half. Moe Harkless contributed 13 points and 16 rebounds in what would be his only Holiday Festival game.

Fordham’s Branden Frazier led all scorers with 17 points.

December 11, 2010 – Fordham 84, St. John’s 81

This one hurt, and it was one of those losses that almost cost St. John’s an NCAA berth that season.

The Johnnies were coming off a 67-66 loss at home to St. Bonaventure and then came into to The Bronx to blow a huge second-half lead.

St. John’s was up 60-39 at one point before Fordham used a 16-0 run to make it a game. The Johnnies then took a 73-61 lead only to see the Rams go on another 16-0 run to secure the upset win before 3,200 rabid fans inside the Rose Hill Gym.

Dwight Hardy scored a game-high 30 points on 12-of-18 shooting. Brenton Butler led Fordham with 22 points.

December 13, 2009 - St. John's 73, Fordham 56

This was the first game in this series after a seven-year hiatus as St. John’s won its eighth straight game of the season.

Justin Brownlee, Paris Horne, and D.J. Kennedy all scored in double figures and that was enough to overcome a 32-point performance from Fordham’s Chris Gatson.

St. John’s didn’t have many victories that season after the Fordham win as Norm Roberts’ squad only won 11 of their next 26 games. The Johnnies lost to Memphis in the first round of the NIT and Roberts soon found himself out of a job.

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