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Coaches vote St. John’s sixth in preliminary Big East poll

The Johnnies are voted to be in the middle of the Big East pack. Agree?

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This season, the Big East’s coaches seem to indicate that the difference between St. John’s, Marquette and Butler is a thin line - and that once again, Villanova is voted first, though not unanimously.

Also of note: DePaul, not Georgetown, was chosen for the final spot in the coaches’ poll.

Coaches cannot vote for their own teams.

Seton Hall and Xavier each received first-place votes in the poll.

The full list:

BE Coaches poll 2017

Team (1st Place Votes) Pts.
Team (1st Place Votes) Pts.
Villanova (8) 80
Seton Hall (1) 71
Xavier (1) 63
Providence 59
Creighton 48
St. John's 36
Marquette 34
Butler 32
Georgetown 15
DePaul 12
Big East Coaches Poll 2017 Big East

For St. John’s, this is a measure of the uncertainty around the team’s defense and the impact of the newcomers - plus a reflection of the strength of the league. The top five teams have a fairly set system and/ or set of returnees (though Creighton lost a bit in the offseason).

St. John’s and Butler have not yet established their identities under their coaches, while Marquette has a number of newcomers that will need to make an impact.

St. John’s does have the scoring trio of Bashir Ahmed, Marcus LoVett and Shamorie Ponds, however, and a little bit more efficiency and better defense could make St. John’s a surprise team.