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Three straight losses to open up conference play can drop you from 15th-ranked to out of the polls in just two short weeks, and the Red Storm found that out today.

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Three straight losses in their first three Big East conference games have caused St. John's to drop from the top 25 rankings, as expected, for the first time in five weeks. After sitting at 24th overall in both the AP and USA Today Coaches Polls, the Red Storm dropped their only game last week against Villanova, and are now unranked in each poll.

Despite this, the Johnnies still did rank 32nd in the AP Poll with 10 votes, and 29th in the Coaches Poll with 25 votes. They could have a chance to move up in the polls this week when they take on Providence on Wednesday and DePaul on Sunday.

AP Top 25

Rank Team Record Pts Last
1 Kentucky Wildcats (63) 15-0 1623 1
2 Virginia Cavaliers (2) 15-0 1561 2
3 Gonzaga Bulldogs 17-1 1446 3
4 Duke Blue Devils 14-1 1432 4
5 Villanova Wildcats 15-1 1358 5
6 Louisville Cardinals 14-2 1264 6
7 Wisconsin Badgers 15-2 1200 7
8 Utah Utes 13-2 1185 8
9 Kansas Jayhawks 13-2 1100 9
10 Arizona Wildcats 14-2 1037 10
11 Iowa State Cyclones 12-2 922 11
12 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 15-2 903 12
13 Wichita State Shockers 14-2 832 13
14 Maryland Terrapins 15-2 801 14
15 North Carolina Tar Heels 13-4 719 15
16 West Virginia Mountaineers 14-2 627 16
17 Virginia Commonwealth Rams 13-3 578 17
18 Oklahoma Sooners 11-4 485 18
19 Arkansas Razorbacks 13-2 431 19
20 Texas Longhorns 12-4 345 20
21 Seton Hall Pirates 13-3 298 21
22 Baylor Bears 12-3 278 22
23 Northern Iowa Panthers 14-2 212 23
24 Oklahoma State Cowboys 12-3 132 24
25 Wyoming Cowboys 15-2 71 25
Others receiving votes: Ohio St. 70, Michigan St. 67, Dayton 55, Providence 17, Indiana 15, LSU 12, St. John’s 10, Alabama 7, Georgetown 7, NC State 6, Green Bay 3, Syracuse 3, Butler 2, Oregon 2, San Diego St. 2, TCU 2, Colorado St. 1, Davidson 1, Hofstra 1, Old Dominion 1, SMU 1.

USA Today Coaches Poll

RANK TEAM RECORD POINTS PREV
1 Kentucky (31) 15-0 799 1
2 Virginia (1) 15-0 768 3
3 Gonzaga 16-1 713 7
4 Duke 14-1 698 2
5 Villanova 15-1 659 8
6 Wisconsin 15-2 604 4
7 Louisville 14-2 587 5
8 Utah 13-2 556 11
9 Arizona 14-2 548 6
10 Kansas 13-2 521 13
11 Maryland 15-2 455 9
12 Notre Dame 15-2 439 12
13 Iowa St. 12-2 418 16
14 Wichita State 14-2 390 15
15 West Virginia 14-2 330 14
16 North Carolina 12-4 328 17
17 Virginia Commonwealth 13-3 244 21
18 Oklahoma 11-4 202 18
19 Arkansas 13-2 196 25
20 Texas 12-4 184 10
21 Seton Hall 13-3 170 19
22 Northern Iowa 14-2 135 23
23 Baylor 12-3 116 22
24 Oklahoma State 12-3 51 30
25 Ohio State 13-4 47 20
Others receiving votes: Michigan State 35; Wyoming 28; Indiana 25; St. John?s 25; Dayton 22; Colorado State 20; Georgetown 19; Providence 16; Old Dominion 10; Stanford 10; Alabama 8; San Diego State 6; LSU 5; Southern Methodist 4; Syracuse 4; North Carolina State 2; Rhode Island 1; Saint Mary?s 1; Mississippi 1.

Poll Movements in the Big East

Villanova remains the highest ranked team in the Big East this week, jumping up three spots in each poll to 8th overall after dominating wins over St. John's and DePaul over the past week. The Wildcats have entered the top five in the AP Poll for the first time this season after an impressive 15-1 start, and they exerted their will on a DePaul team on Saturday that had been previously unbeaten in the conference. This week sees Villanova face Xavier on Wednesday before taking on a fellow Philly Big 5 member in Penn on Saturday.

The only other Big East team to earn a top 25 ranking this week were the Seton Hall Pirates, who dropped two spots in each of the polls to fall to 21st overall today.

The Hall faced two tough road challenges this week, and after a road upset at the hands of Xavier on Wednesday, they rebounded nicely against Creighton on Saturday, where a late 3-pointer by possible Big East Player of the Year candidate Sterling Gibbs propelled them to a 68-67 victory. The schedule will not get any easier for the 13-3 Pirates this week when they face Butler on Tuesday night before eight days off.

Three Big East teams join St. John's in the "others receiving votes" category for this week, as Providence, Georgetown, and Butler all received some recognition in either one or both of the polls.

The Friars garnered 17 votes in the AP Poll and 16 in the Coaches after an undefeated week in which they scored impressive wins on the road at Butler and at home in overtime over Georgetown. Their 13-4 overall record and 3-1 start to Big East play has them looking like a possible threat in the conference again as they face St. John's at home and Creighton on the road this week.

Georgetown received 19 votes in the Coaches Poll but only seven in the AP after they split their games this week against Marquette and Providence. The Hoyas are now 10-5 overall and are off to a 2-2 start in the conference as they prepare for games against DePaul and Butler this week.

Speaking of Butler, the 12-5 Bulldogs split their pair of home games this week, first suffering a tough loss to Providence on Tuesday before rebounding with a nice win over Xavier on Saturday. This could be a very telling week for the Bulldogs when they'll travel on the road against Seton Hall and Georgetown.

Four Big East teams, Xavier, Marquette, Creighton, and DePaul, were not included in the polls this week. The only surprise from that may be the absence of Xavier, who defeated 19th-ranked Seton Hall on Wednesday. They've opened up 2-2 in the conference with a pair of wins and home and two losses on the road.

Creighton continued their struggles this season with two more losses this week, and they have now dropped five straight (four in the Big East) in what is looking like it could be a very long season for the Blue Jays.

And while Creighton has struggled to a 9-8 record this season, DePaul had been surging at 3-0 in the Big East before they got a major wake up call at the hands of Villanova in the form of an 81-64 loss on Saturday.

Weekly Awards Recap

Kris Dunn of Providence took home his first Big East Player of the Week award this season after averaging 20.5 points and 7.5 rebounds per game for the Friars this week. The sophomore guard led his team in scoring in their road upset of Butler on Tuesday, with a career-high 25 points, 20 of them coming in the second half.

Seton Hall's impressive big man Angel Delgado was named Big East Rookie of the Week for the second time this season. Delgado became the third straight Pirate to be given this honor in a category that they have predictably dominated so far this season.

D`Angelo Harrison was the lone St. John's representative in the awards this week, as he was named to the Big East Honor Roll along with Butler's Alex Barlow, Georgetown's Joshua Smith, Seton Hall's Sterling Gibbs, and Villanova's Darrun Hilliard.